Selected Conversations w/ The Hellp by Andy Baerenwald
[Andy]
Howdy, this is Andy. Who am I here with today?
[Noah Dillon]
Noah Dillon.
[Chandler Lucy]
Chandler Lucy.
[Together]
…of The Hellp.
[Andy]
The Hellp. How are y'all doing today?
[Noah Dillon]
Houston, Texas, you know, we've had a complicated and convoluted past with this city, but, you know, I recognize that there's greatness here, and we're happy to be a part of it.
[Chandler Lucy]
Amen, Mo ID, Mo Money, Mo, people keep the city...
[Together]
Spinning.
[Andy]
So what's with the change in the dynamic? Originally, it was you did not like Houston, Texas, is that correct?
[Noah Dillon]
We… we hate Houston, Texas. We're just trying to be cordial.
[Chandler Lucy]
No, we're being polite. It's nothing against people here. Met a lot of really fucking cool people here.
[Noah Dillon]
It's not the people. It's just the dynamic of the city's a concrete block in the middle of, you know, an anti-oasis desert, and we're just trying to figure out why and God's name did they build this monstrosity? But, you know, it's okay The people are right. Cancer research is good, and, you know, there's a couple of, there's the, you know, the Rothko Church Chapel. There's the Cy Towmbly Museum, so there's some good art here. apparently there's a great Thai food, which I had last night.
[Chandler Lucy]
Apparently, you guys got great strip clubs here, too.
[Andy]
There's a lot of good everything here. A lot of good food, I’m saying, I'm in, I'm from Houston, so that's why I'm representing… Now, what's y’all’s favorite city if you guys do not like Houston?
[Noah Dillon]
In Texas or the world?
[Andy]
Anywhere.
[Noah Dillon]
I mean, for this last tour that we've done our last, you know, three months of playing shows, I think Montreal is probably our favorite new city. We love Chicago, Montreal, New York City, you know, Paris. That's pretty good, but you know, every city has its charm, but.
[Chandler Lucy]
I’d say, European, I think, Prague and Krakow and Poland.
[Noah Dillon]
Krakow is great.
[Chandler Lucy]
Yeah, very cool. And honestly, this little tiny town we spent a lot of time in in Portugal named Geres National Park goes on this lake, because it was like the Lake Como.
[Noah Dillon]
It was like Lake Como, but nobody knew about it. It was very very cool. There was black mold in our place, though, so it really fucked me up, and I think there's probably mold in here that's blowing directly on me right now, but...
[Andy]
This place reeks a piss. Honestly, if you go around there, it reeks of piss. Now, gotta say, you’ve got fans all over the world. Who are your favorite fans?
[Noah Dillon]
You know historically, we've always been a New York style band. We've never lived there, but I have a soft spot for New York culture and the people who showed us for the most love initially and the fan base. But you'd be really surprised Chicago, they're pretty ravid. They should really show out. Seattle was pretty interesting, actually. So, I mean, it's also shocking that we have any fans at all. It always blows me away. So, yeah, I don't know.
[Chandler Lucy]
Favorite, I think I think people who met in Europe were my favorite personally. Like, they were just very. Berlin, Berlin, Berlin, I think, had my favorite fans. Berlin. Berlin. They were very respectful and really gave us a really fucking ripping time and Prague as well.
[Andy]
You know, you guys mentioned, it's kind of a surprise that even have fans, and, you know, I'm sure that's an interesting thing to wake up to every day. You probably have a million DMs, you got people wanting to take your photo, your autograph, and everything. How is that different from the beginning? How did y'all start out?
[Chandler Lucy]
Um, I mean, night and day.
[Noah Dillon]
It's night a day, but also, I was always around when I was first started even not music. I was around people that was part of their life. So it's kind of just seemed like one continuous stream. It's not like it was all of a sudden people knew us. It was like, oh, we're around people that already, a lot of people know. And so by derision, people know sort of, maybe who I am or what then the band sort of picking up more, more steam, but I think the more shocking thing is just that we've been doing this for nine years almost, and we're becoming more and more popular. So usually you’d expect, you know, there are those the burnt out 55 year olds who, you know, are, you know, they' from days gone by, but, you know?
[Andy]
That's awesome, yeah. What does the future of The Hellp look like?
[Noah Dillon]
You know, we're moving to Houston, Texas.
[Chandler Lucy]
Opening a shawarma business.
[Noah Dillon]
We're gonna releasing our record in two or three weeks.
[Chandler Lucy]
Album release party in Houston.
[Noah Dillon]
Yeah. Releasing our record, and then, you know, after that, we don't really sure, but one thing after one thing, after another, you know, a couple of music videos and the album released, I'll see what happens.
[Chandler Lucy]
We're not really like long vision people. We're kind of like, this has been. Everything's kind of like the biggest fight you've ever fought in your life is getting a record done, then the biggest fight ever is doing a tour, and then the biggest fight you've ever done is this..
[Noah Dillon]
The future… I wouldn't say it's bleak, but you know, if it's anything like this room, it's not, not too pleasant..
[Andy]
Constant an uphill battle for sure.
[Noah Dillon]
Feels like we're, you know, it feels like a blast from the past. We haven't played a show like this and probably five years, so, you know. No disrespect to anybody. We were very grateful that people like us, but it's just interesting to kind of feel like you're regressing, even though you've hired a security guard to be with you, you know.
[Andy]
We're very happy that you're here and we're very excited for the show y'all are going to put on. What are y'all anticipating the most from the show?
[Noah Dillon]
I mean, I'm anticipating that I'm gonna be kind of embarrassed because I'm a very insecure man, even to this day, and I'm like, man, there's not that many people out there. So I feel like, you know, we're kind of worthless, but we'll give it a good go and, you know, hopefully it's loud and hopefully the sound is mixed halfway decent. We didn't do a sound check, so we'll see what happens.
[Chandler]
I just hope it fucking sounds all right, man. Like, you If you can hear the kink, it's fuck it, you know that’s all… It's depending, I don't read you completely trans. I never really think about that. We just kind of just do a fist bump and just go do the job.. It's just the job. Albeit it's a pretty fucking flashy, cool job, in my opinion.
[Andy]
Do y'all see music more as a hobby, job, or is it something else, a secret third option?
[Noah Dillon]
Clock in. Clock out.
[Chandler Lucy]
An obligation to the… those watching above you, maybe, I don't know.
[Andy]
I see. Noah, you went to college is that correct?
[Noah Dillon]
I did, yes.
[Andy]
What, lessons did you learn there that applied today?
[Noah Dillon]
I learned vitriol, hard work, dedication, sacrifice, and the the main lesson of being alone as a young man, which I think is very important to be able to know yourself, and just, you know, how to think critically and correctly. I took college, taught me all those things. I think college is a beautiful place and I think it is something that everybody, if they have the opportunity to do so, they should go. And yeah, I wanted to drop out every single day, but I'm glad I didn't and I got my degree and a couple of minors, so that was good.
[Andy]
Considering the sunk cost fallacy, when do you know, when you quit?
[Noah Dillon]
When do I know I want to when to quit?
[Andy]
Yeah.
[Noah Dillon]
You know, I've been wanting to quit the band for five years and end the band, but it hasn't happened. But it's like, I think about I think about great people who, especially in sports, because there's metered and measured, you know, games that they have and then certain occurrences. So you think about Tom Brady. He won the Super Bowl with the tampa, but he won a bunch of Super Bowls and then won the two more Super Bowls at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. and he quit. Quit on top. John Elway, quit on top. Won the Super Bowl, then he quit. So, you know, we're seemingly approaching our, who knows what our peak is, but it seems like, you know, we're climbing, climbing the mountain, and it seems like the apex may be near, so we want to make sure that we go out on top of our own legacy so that, you know, when people look back, the legacy is intact. And the lessons that people learn from this band or the emotion that they took away from it cannot be misconstrued or twisted by the... our own desires and wants for, you, more autographs and extra Kiss My Keto snacks in the green room.
[Chandler Lucy]
More rotisserie.
[Andy]
More rotisserie chicken. Awesome. Well, I just got one more thing for y'all. I'm here representing a college organization. What message do y'all have to any organization out there that wants to hear what y'all have to say?
[Noah Dillon]
I mean, I don't know about any organization, but for college organization, think for yourself, you know, don't let the the facade of collegiate intellects or faux collegiate intellects, cloud your vision, and what you think or don't think. So do your research and, you know, take that with you in the future. That's all I got to say..
[Chandler Lucy]
Be somebody, man. Be whoever you want to be, man. Be someone great. be someone that kids want aspire to be and be someone on your parents are proud of, I think that's the most important thing. And, Fuck it don't do shit. That's coming from a bad place in your heart, man.
[Andy]
Funny enough, "Be Someone" is the unofficial motto of Houston. It is be someone.
[Chandler Lucy]
Is it really?
[Andy]
It is spray painted on a railroad.
[Together]
Wow.
[Andy]
Well, thank you guys so much.
Post-Concert Interview
[Andy]
It's time for a post-game interview.
[Noah Dillon]
Yes, sir.
[Andy]
Okay, post-game... you mind if I sit here? Awesome. All right, who am I here with?
[Noah Dillon]
Noah Dillon.
[Chandler Lucy]
Chandler Lucy of the..
[Together]
The Hellp!
[Andy]
Alright guys, post-game interview. You guys just performed in Houston, which you guys fucking hate. What are we thinking now? Is it still fuck Houston?
[Noah Dillon]
No, I'm thinking about the legendary Houston Astros baseball team, and you know, that was a homage to them, so I'm holding the baseball in my hand because the fan gave it to me, and we're doing it for them.
[Chandler Lucy]
As of right now, I'm thinking about King of The Hill, because someone, you mentioned Houston, Texas, and I was like… Texas!
[Andy]
Do you like propane?
[Chandler Lucy]
No, you know, honestly, I rock with propane, man. I'm not a big, coal guy. I used to cook a lot of steaks on coal when I worked on his horse ranch.
[Andy]
Really?
[Chandler Lucy]
Just never got hot enough on the steak. I just wasn't into that shit, dude. I' more of a propane guy.
[Noah Dillon]
You’ve gotta blast it.
[Andy]
You mentioned the word homage. Do you think there's too much homage in the industry today?
[Noah Dillon]
Homage is just a cheap word for I copied somebody who didn't put enough of my own thought into it.
[Chandler Lucy]
It's way cooler to say you copied someone than to say you did an “homage”.
[Noah Dillon]
Exactly.
[Andy]
What do you guys think of the Houston Astros cheating scandal?
[Noah Dillon]
I'm saying, go for it, juice them up, Deflategate, all the scandals, keep sports lively. Keeping guessing. You know, let's get some scandals, and some drama back into sports.
[Chandler Lucy]
I actually do totally second that because sports have been completed. They've been dominated. The only way you can change baseball now is by changing the geography of the field, you know what I mean? You put a bunch of hills on… on the field.
[Andy]
That’s what the Astros had with the hill.
[Chandler Lucy]
Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, there's only one way you can… like, basketball, it's all shot from the same fucking spot in the court now. It's like, let’s put them on fucking steroids, dude. Get them all pumped up on cocaine or something. Let's get it going.
[Andy]
Who do you root for in the Olympics?
[Noah Dillon]
Obviously, USA. All the way.
[Chandler Lucy]
Yeah, US, all the fucking way. What are you talking about?
[Andy]
You're not supporting some random micronation?
[Noah Dillon]
Fuck no.
[Chandler Lucy]
A random micronation?
[Noah Dillon]
They did nothing to deserve their spot. We dominant because of for a reason, go USA forever… and I dislike athletes…. I don't dislike athletes because there are a couple that are brilliant, but who are from the United States, where they choose to play for or represent their mothers like maiden or home country. It's happened a couple times, and I don't like it.
[Chandler Lucy]
Yeah, shout out fucking Michael Phelps forever. Forever.
[Noah Dillon]
Forever.
[Andy]
That's awfully patriotic.
[Chandler Lucy]
He's holding the baseball.
[All]
*Laughter*
[Andy]
What makes you so patriotic?
[Noah Dillon]
Because we are… have the pleasure of being afforded great wealth, and opportunity. And, you know… hate to use the word, but what do you call it? When you, you have opportunities other people don’t?
[Chandler Lucy]
Privileged.
[Noah Dillon]
Privilege. We're very privileged living in this nation, even though, you know, may not love Houston or may not love a lot of the cities, but I don't know if you've ever been to Bucharest, Romania. I don't know if you've ever been to the Eastern Bloc, see how that worked out. So I think we're pretty good over here. Also, I'm from here I’m saying that's the gist of it. That's in our DNA, or from the dirt, you know?
[Andy]
It's not DNA, it's USA.
[Chandler Lucy]
Yeah, we're dejected fucking kids from small towns who just wanted to be somebody, and now we're planning to fucking, what? How many people are there? 300?
[Noah Dillon]
I think like 75…
[Chandler Lucy]
75… sweaty Houstonians.
[Noah Dillon]
Houstonians.
[Chandler Lucy]
Yeah, Houstonians. We're all on your team, though. That's the whole thing. That's why we do it, man. Because if that was if we were doing that in fucking… where’ve we been in… Estonia? What, you know, like, won't be too happy about it.
[Noah Dillon]
Latvia.
[Chandler Lucy]
Latvia. Whatever. Shout out America.
[Andy]
Who do you feel like right now?
[Noah Dillon]
Noah Dillon.
[Chandler Lucy]
I'd feel like, Joaquin Phoenix in that movie where he, like pretended to be a rapper publicly, you know? But I feel like him at the very end of the movie when he's like, going through the old Amazon, like, rainforest, like river and he's like shirtless thinking about his brother and stuff like that. I'm not thinking about anything that prophetic, but definitely feel like having a beer and doing a bunch of cocaine kind of, but not necessarily more like spiritually, than more than physically.
[Andy]
Go-to beer?
[Noah Dillon]
I don't drink beer… Chandler?
[Chandler Lucy]
These days, you know, as a man who has a Bud Light tattoo proudly, I'm rocking with Coors Light, dude. It’s the best. And then second best is like Modelo.
[Andy]
Go-to strain?
[Noah Dillon]
Strain? Strain of weed?
[Andy]
Yeah.
[Noah Dillon]
I hate weed.
[Chandler Lucy]
I- I’ll go my non-go-to strain of weed, which is rotten bananas. It was the highest I've ever been. I saw Blade Runner 2049 in theaters, and everybody that was working inside of the movie theater had Down Syndrome. It was insane. It was the craziest experience in my life and I was on mushrooms too, and it was the most unpleasant time I've had smoking weed, I think, ever… Next to eating an edible when I was like 15. But the go-to not strain is rotten bananas, for sure.
[Andy]
Who is the worst celebrity you've ever met?
[Noah Dillon]
I mean, I have two in my head, but I'm not going to say out loud. Both of them are legends and like, I respect them. But, you know, sometimes…
[Chandler Lucy]
Worst celebrities…? You know, I don't really have an answer for that. Nothing's coming to mind, but there definitely I've definitely had shitty interactions with famous people, but you know, I can't I can't think of anything at the time, you know. But also, you said least favorite famous person? That fucking… Chandler Lucy.
[Andy]
I see the Juul. Why the throwback?
[Chandler Lucy]
Um, It was mainly because I, you know, we get smoking fine in arenas or… not arenas. Fuck I'm pretending I’m famous. You get smoking fines in places, so I just kind of had it and we were just in the van a lot and like we can't smoke cigarettes in the rental tour van. So I was just hitting this, on planes, whatever, and it kind of just stuck me in the last couple days or the last couple months, I would say. It's convenient, like on long drives, airports, whatever. So just on stage it's like, yeah, because I didn't buy any cigarettes for this, so… and I only really like one type of cigarette, which is American Spirits, but for the most part, like also, like, out of all the vapes dude, it’s the only one that's like, kind of has like taste to it it… kind of looks like the thing from Blade Runner that he, you know, the JOI, the little thing. It's sleek, it's cool, it's conventional, and it's beautiful.
[Andy]
Was the mango Juul Pod as good as they say?
[Chandler Lucy]
Yeah, but the best was mint and second to that before mango was creme brûlé. If you smoked creme brûlé while drinking coffee in the morning, it felt like you're eating French toast every day without eating. And at the time, Noah and I were fasting a whole bunch, so it was a great experience.
[Andy]
What message do you have to all the 20-year-olds out there?
[Noah Dillon]
Live free, die hard.
[Chandler Lucy]
You second that and also just, you know, like I said to all the college cats, you know. Fucking, uh, be somebody, man. You can be whatever you want to be, whether that's a doctor, a janitor, man, be it and be the best one you can be. Or, you know, you're gonna die one day and your ancestors fought really hard for you to be alive, so you might as well try to make them happy.
[Andy]
Any final thoughts right now?
[Noah Dillon]
Um. God bless America.
[Chander Lucy]
I really, really want to go see the Tron movie with Jared Leto. I'm thinking about that a lot lately.
[Andy]
Before we go, is there anyone you'd like to shout out?
[Noah Dillon]
Shout out Luca Madar. You know who you are, in Paris right now. He's a beautiful young man with great prospects, and we're sending love from Houston, Texas.
[Chandler Lucy]
Shout out my best friend, so I was five years old, Johnny Mandoli. [?]
[Andy]
Thank you guys so much. This was…
[Noah Dillon]
Noah Dillon.
[Chandler Lucy]
Uh, Chandler Lucy.
[Andy]
…And you're listening to KANM Radio. Thank you so much. Have a good night.